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Post  Mellie-Master on Wed May 07, 2008 9:41 am

instead of wasting our time making sucky sprites and coding a fighting game, I have a better idea.
there's this program called 3D Studio Max, and you can make and animate 3D models with it.
so, we could either all learn to 3D Model, OR I could make a base for every character and you guys make me templates.
the good thing is: when you have the model and the texture, you can animate away. when you're making sprites, you have to sprite every single frame of every single movement
the bad thing is: NOTHING!

now we could make a game in DarkBASIC Pro (http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com) and make any game we want! Even Online Games!
but then we just have to discuss whether we want:
A Strategy Game (Warcraft III, SpellForce)
A Third or First Person Game (The Elder Scrolls Series, WoW)
A First Person Shooter (Halo, Tactical Ops, Counter Strike, Unreal Tournament)
A Fighting Game (Def Jam Fight for NY, Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi Three)
An Rpg (Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy)
A beat/shoot 'em up (GTA)
A Sports/Racing Game (Tony hawk Series, Mario Kart DS/Wii)
A Side-Scroller (not really fun in 3D but it's possible)
A Simulator (The Sims, Nintendogz)
something else..........

anyway, tell me if you agree and what game-genre would best fit for TFHHA, and why.
keep your specific ideas in mind, some ideas aren't doable in some genres.

my vote goes to a 3D TFHHA Fighting game in DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 style, because we can use our fantasy and most of the characters. + the game is already stocked with Fantasy characters with super powers, so that will spare us.
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Post  Treforce on Wed May 07, 2008 12:03 pm

I think that a fighting game whould be a good idea... but I don like fighting games that mouch.

so my vote goes to an RPG (like kingdom hearts)


Why not go all the way and make you chose who you want to play as at the beginning of the game.

and then each "world" could have there own person as "sidekick"

for instance.

if I chose to play as Silver serpant... I start at Silver serpants "world" and fight what ever monsters are there... and when I get to the world of "Treforce INC" I whould have Raziel and RC as sidekicks and defeating that "worlds" monsters (OMG... THE DENNIS ARE ATTACKING!)

ofcourse... the starting world whould be the easy one... and with no sidekicks
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Post  Chrisseh-chan on Wed May 07, 2008 10:23 pm

I think they both sound like good ideas. Either a fighting game or an RPG.

I've always wanted to learn how to do 3D Modeling... =o
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Post  Mellie-Master on Thu May 08, 2008 10:23 am

well an RPG like Kingdom Hearts would be a good idea!
I like the idea with the worlds. and the sidekicks.
ok I changed my vote to this idea.
mybe we could make a new character to install as a main character to fix all the worlds because we're all to lazy to do it ourselves 8D
and then you just have us as sidekicks.

and @ chrisseh, I could illegally send you my illegally downloaded copy of 3D Studio MAX and some tutorials with it Wink
it's easier then you think!
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Re: Idea.

Post  Mellie-Master on Thu May 08, 2008 2:14 pm

me, Psycho and Treforce worked out a little storyline together.

we, the members of TFHHA, have found an powerfull crystal/emerald/whatever. someguy wants to rule all worlds but he needs the powerfull thing for that. we decided that the thingy was to powerfull for humankind to handle so we scatterd it.
but:
the powerfullness bounded within our souls, so someguy put us in seperate worlds with no memory of the event whatsoever.

(in the game, Newgrounds is an orginization. and there's a TFHHA room that has been locked for several years.)

the main character reads in the newspaper that we all went missing on the same date. the only relation we have is the TFHHA Department in Newgrounds HQ. Tom Fulp grants him permission to look around, and the Main Character finds a diary Chrisseh has been holding, telling about the event.
-for some reason The Main Character finds out we are in different worlds and he/she/it finds out how he can switch between these.-

and thus our Main Character travels trough the worlds and battles all of us, deleting the powerfullness permanently.
Someguy is not happy with that, and battles The Main Character at the end

all we need is some minor improvement, a way to find out we are in different worlds, a way to switch between these and a way to edit the bad guys(Millie, The Lamer, Xbox Girl, Dennis, Etc.) in the game.
all suggestions are welcome.

PS: we just assumed an RPG was the coolest idea so we just rolled with that 8D
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Post  ChaosCrunchy on Fri May 09, 2008 1:10 am

Well if it's okay with you guys....I want to be the main bad guy! Well me possesed by Existence would be but yeah I'd gradually transform into the final boss. Most of you know what My character looks like In the second stage stage (look at my display pic.) And I made a quick drawing of third stage in the enemies folder. Im going to take the time to make an awesome drawing of the possible final boss( i.e. my final form) but if ya'll don't want it, then that's cool. The story seems to fit my character (what with different worlds and emeralds and all that jazz.)

Basically, I would be competing with the main character, also going world to world, to get the power crystals back in an attempt to reach my final form. As well as the other TFHHA Badies for their own purposes.

As for how the main character can switch between worlds, it could be that he has also fused with the "powerfullness" except he has the ability to control the power and use it for good. However this fact should be revealed later in the game and the reason why he/she can switch between worlds is a mystery until the big reveal near the end when all hope seems lost. I think the mystery would really draw players in to the game a great deal!

That's about all of the major ideas I have...could you explain what you mean by "edit the bad guys"?
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Post  Mellie-Master on Fri May 09, 2008 1:17 am

well, you're a member of TFHHA, I don't think you should be a bad guy.
also: if you are the only one with an ultimate form, you're making an god-mod out of yerself >_>
we could use the idea of an ultimate form, but then everyone of TFHHA needs one. they could be triggered by the powerfullness.

you are trapped in a world >_>
you get your ass kicked by the main character =D
you don't travel. you sit 'n wait 'n fight.
...that sounds boring. this game is about US! we need edits on the stroy-line

and with editing the bad guys is that we need a way to put them in the game >_>
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Re: Idea.

Post  ChaosCrunchy on Fri May 09, 2008 1:32 am

Okay that's cool, but yeah we need to be playable! not just fought once then forgoten!

Maybe once a character is defeated he/she becomes part of the party? I know you said no traveling but we would be fighting along side the main character and it would keep things more even.

BTW do we really need the whole NG thing with Tom Fulp? I say trash that idea and just, i dunno, start in Artopia (that is the name of the city right?) and the Main Character reads the newspaper there...yeah but I think the whole Tom Fulp and NG thing is not necessary and we would be better off with out it. But You're gonna be doing most of the creation and stuff so do what you feel comfortable with =D.
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Re: Idea.

Post  Mellie-Master on Fri May 09, 2008 2:27 pm

well Chaos, we can't justtrash ideas.
if you trash an idea, you have to replace it with an new idea.
so yeah now we need another way how the Main Character finds out how and why we are in those seperate worlds.

as for the party idea,
...well you have a point there, but you would be god-modding if you have 12 over-powered good guys behind your back D:
so if anyone has a goowd idea on that let me know plox(I'll think about something too)
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Post  ChaosCrunchy on Fri May 09, 2008 8:40 pm

I was just thinking it would be a more traditional 3 to 4 ppl fighting at once while the rest goes off else where to handle other matters.

But now here's another question. Just what are these different worlds going to be? Are they actual places based from TFHHA?

The way I'd think of it is like this. We are corrupted with this power or whatever the official name for it is. I'd suggest that the worlds would be like representations of each character's desires or personality. So the main character is not only fighting to change us back, but in order to change the worlds into it's original form.

If that's no good then the worlds could come from each character's backstory! Like psycho could be back where all the other demons are at, I could be back at the main ARPA HQ, Millie would be like in the Rat kingdom, and so on. It doesn't have to be exactly like that but It would be nice to know what the worlds should be based off of before drawing up designs.
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Post  Mellie-Master on Sat May 10, 2008 1:51 am

I like the personality repsresentation thingy!
...but then my world would be full of hatred, cute kittys and flying watermelons o_O
but I like it anyway.

anyway, I was thinking about that sidekick thing.
my idea was that every time you beat someone, they become availible as sidekick
and as you enter every world, you choose one or two sidekicks.
I think that would be the best option.
but if there are better ideas, let me know.

and maybe all our worlds have a bad-guy inside of them.
and that when you battle him/her peace will be restored in that world, and we join the main characters team out of thanx.
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Re: Idea.

Post  ChaosCrunchy on Sat May 10, 2008 3:19 am

That sounds like a Winner to me!
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Post  Mellie-Master on Sat May 10, 2008 12:39 pm

ok then =D
but in that case, Millie would be the antagonist instead of Someguy. which is okay.
but now:
WE NEED TO KNOW HOW THE MAIN CHARACTER KNOWS WE ARE IN DIFFERENT WORLDS AND HOW TO TRAVEL TROUGH THEM Very Happy
then we're...kinda done.
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Post  ChaosCrunchy on Sat May 10, 2008 2:43 pm

hmmm....Maybe it should go like this.

After finding out that we are missing,
One, Chrisseh, Millie, or someone else comes to her in a dream and tells her where to go and whats going on.
or
Two, Someone from ARPA would inform her.
or
Three, She has a mysterious vision.
or
Four, she enters another world by accident and at first she'll be fighting for survival. Once she realises that she's rescued one of the missing characters, that's when it becomes a quest to save everyone.

I like the last one the best. But I gave ya other possibilites to think of!

As for how she travels to different worlds...maybe some kind of portal? I'll have to get back to ya on that one.
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Post  Treforce on Sat May 10, 2008 3:32 pm

ChaosCrunchy wrote:hmmm....Maybe it should go like this.
she enters another world by accident and at first she'll be fighting for survival. Once she realises that she's rescued one of the missing characters, that's when it becomes a quest to save everyone.

sounds like a good idea that one


As for how she travels to different worlds...maybe some kind of portal? I'll have to get back to ya on that one.

why am I thinking freakazoid... you know, with a virus in a chip, sucking her in after the cat punches some keys.
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Re: Idea.

Post  Mellie-Master on Sun May 11, 2008 1:19 am

Chaos, you win.
EDN
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Post  Akadra on Mon May 12, 2008 5:30 am

Soudns butterlicious, but i don't know how to do that ThreeDimensional stuff that much, on paper? Easy, On computer? I don't know. I could make the animation sheets for a fighting or rpg in flash, but somebody else must code it then.
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Post  Mellie-Master on Mon May 12, 2008 9:45 am

Akadra, nobody said you had to help. if you want to, it's welcome, of cource
but the thing is: I'm doing the 3D modeling, and everyone else makes the textures for his/her character(s), and, of cource, does the voice-acting for his/her character(s).
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Post  Treforce on Mon May 12, 2008 2:41 pm

Mellie-Master wrote:everyone else makes the textures for his/her character(s), and, of cource, does the voice-acting for his/her character

does the voice-acting for his/her character

voice-acting for his/her character

voice-acting for character

ARGHHH

I can handle making the voice for Raziel Treforce... but how the hell do I do RC?

I coudnt make her sound like a girl the first time I tryed
Crying or Very sad
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Post  ChaosCrunchy on Mon May 12, 2008 4:15 pm

Have you talked to chrisseh? Maybe she can help. I could also edit my own voice to sound like a girl...but it sounds slightly unnatural. So yeah...I dunno what else to tell ya. Maybe you can get one of those voice actors from NG to help ya out?
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Post  Chrisseh-chan on Mon May 12, 2008 8:53 pm

I can do various girl's voices. Also, I have girl friends I could ask. Duuuh. 8D
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Post  Mellie-Master on Tue May 13, 2008 12:10 pm

CHrisseh already does Chrisseh and Millie, don't exhaust her.
There's this thing called THE VOICE ACTING CLUB (http://voiceactingclub.com) with lots of (female) Voice-Actors.When the game is done modeling and programming, I'll have some auditions.
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Post  Treforce on Tue May 13, 2008 3:47 pm

you know... I could also use:
http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php

Text-To-Speech page

I could just write a text, and voila... A female voice Smile
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Post  ChaosCrunchy on Tue May 13, 2008 6:22 pm

wow the speaking sounds smoother than speakonia and more natural! But It just doesn't sound right, I say just go with a real person. It may take more time but It is SO worth it!
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Post  Chrisseh-chan on Wed May 14, 2008 4:47 pm

I agree... fake voices are like... so fake. =P
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